Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno cannot file an appeal against a sentence of caning because the 14 days for her to do so expired on Aug 3.
State Religious Department (Jaip) chief prosecutor Datuk Abdul Rahim Jaafar said it was now up to Syariah Chief Judge Datuk Abdul Hamid Abdul Rahman, who is also the state Syariah Court of Appeal chief judge, to revise the decision of the Syariah High Court judge on July 20.
Kartika, 32, was fined RM5,000 and sentenced to six strokes of the rotan by the Syariah High Court here after she pleaded guilty to drinking beer at a hotel nightclub in Cherating in 2007. The part-time model settled the fine but refused to make an appeal as she said she was ready to be caned. Read here for more
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".... Why is it, that the people ( Malays) who get caught and convicted for various religious offences usually belong to some SPECIFIC socio-economic group?
They come mostly from the LOWER economic strata- factory workers, unemployed, shop girls.
Why are those people caught out belonged to the economically depressed groups?
Kartika Sari Dewi doesn't look as if she comes from the group staying at Damansara Heights, the night owls of Bukit Tunku or the hip crowd at Bangsar's Menerung super condo.
The religious authorities are capable only of SELECTIVE persecution.They target the economically disadvantaged groups and the LESS powerful.
Why don't you appoint GOONS (Guardians Of Our Nation's Souls) to be gendarmes at those posh hotels and other happening places- catch also the economically ADVANTAGED and MORE POWERFUL.
Even members of royal families...."
- "Sakmongkol AK47"
Pharisees and Philistines, Believers and Non-Believers
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The Pahang (Islamic) religious authorities insist on the caning of the model caught out drinking beer. They are only implementing the word of God. That makes them emissaries of God's spoken words.
All right thinking Muslims will not quarrel with this righteous stand.
If the lady in question doesn't want to appeal, that's up to her. She will receive her punishment in due course. She will know that with each stroke, part of the skin and flesh will be taken out. They will leave permanent scars. I was told that when men convicts get caned, they passed out and the severity of the pain causes permanent damage to their reproductive capabilities.
It is probable then, Kartika Sari Sukarno will be barren for the rest of her life. This punishment will make Pahang the most Islamic of the states in Malaysia.
A few years back, I was amused to hear the then Menteri Besar of Kedah, Sanusi Junid (a favourite of mine for his zany but practical ideas) claimed that Kedah is more Islamic than Kelantan. In Kedah, even married couple can be caught for close proximity (khalwat). Sorry Tan Sri, Dato' Sri Adnan who is your admirer has outdone you.
But I would also like to see the Pahang religious authorities be consistent and steadfast and uncompromising in the application of God's laws.
No double standards ok?
- What if you catch out our social luminaries, leaders and even members of the royal family partaking in the same intoxicating beverage?
- Do you have the righteous balls to mete out the same sentence?
If you don't, you will book yourselves a first class ticket to hell.
I have long been puzzled by a very common observation. Most of the time, why is it, that the people ( Malays) who get caught and convicted for various religious offences usually belong to some specific socio-economic group?
Women caught and convicted for various religious offences come before the religious courts come wearing tudungs and appropriate garbs. Men come with the skullcaps ( kopiah/songlok) on.
On appearance alone, they could pass as being people of religious bearings and possibly content. And this is even more perplexing. They come mostly from the lower economic strata- factory workers, unemployed, shop girls. Men= unemployed, taxi drivers, FELDA settlers etc.
Ask yourselves this question: why are those people caught out belonged to the economically depressed groups? Kartika Sari Dewi ( the name sounds similar to sukarno's Japanese wife) doesn't look as if she comes from the group staying at Damansara Heights, the night owls of Bukit Tunku or the hip crowd at Bangsar's Menerung super condo.
Hassan Ali, the PAS executioner- the man who speaks with flailing arms and the man who induces us to use umbrella if sitting in front of him when he speaks, wants to 'tangkap' bar and pub workers and whoever else who do not fit into his religious profiling.
To me, the religious authorities are capable only of selective persecution. They target the economically disadvantaged groups and the less powerful.
Why don't you appoint GOONS (Guardians Of Our Nation's Souls) to be gendarmes at those posh hotels and other happening places- catch also the economically advantaged and more powerful.
Even members of royal families.
Boleh kah antum? ahlah wa sahlan wa marhaban bikum!
One Lash on Kartika Sari Devi, Malaysia becomes another Afghanistan, Iran and Sudan
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A little oversight, and Malaysia's image will nosedive to the same levels of Sudan, or Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran.
Malaysian woman Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno was sentenced to six strokes of rotan by the syariah court in Pahang for beer drinking.
Certain enough, with that one lash, there'll be NO turning back for Malaysia. The country will be seen as one that flogs a woman on religious grounds.
Conservative religious clerics and outfits ( read: PAS) keep exerting pressure, and will NOT call it a day until and unless a stroke has landed on Kartika's body. But that stroke will send the Islamisation a big stride ahead.
If a precedent is set (by caning Karthika Devi) , any punishment in the name of religion in future will be justified, including punishments handed down on women.
If Kartika is eventually caned, the country's image will invariably come under the invisible punishment of the international community. If this were to take place, the government will have problem getting international recognition no matter how hard it sells its "open and moderate" image.
Year after year, Tourism Malaysia has been spending enormous amounts of money to promote "Malaysia, Truly Asia."
A verdict by the syariah court in Pahang has surpassed 10 years of effort by Tourism Malaysia in getting the country exposed in international media.
Not too long ago, Sudanese woman Lubna al-Hussein was sentenced by the court to 40 lashes for wearing pants, much to the shock and ridicule of the entire world.
All of a sudden, Sudan was treated free propaganda on global media, and the country was seen on the same ground as autocracy, backwardness, inhumanity and anti-feminism.
Who would want to visit or invest in a country like this?
Thanks to publication taboo, the "Kartika Sari Devi" incident in Malaysia has not been given enough weight by local media; but the news has been carried far and wide by international players such as CNN, BBC, The Associated Press, Reuters, The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, as well as their counterparts in Asia.
Indeed, drinking is haram, unlike wearing pants, but to international media, they are all thrown into the same category.
Malaysia has over and again emphasised that it is practising moderate Islam, and under the auspices of "moderation," a person infringing upon religious taboos should be served with exhortation or light penalties such as small-amount fines.
Even moderate and open-minded Muslims feel the so-called taboos are a relationship between the believer and God.
If punishment must be served, it should be God who passes down the verdict, NOT anyone else.
Some in the government are indeed aware of the seriousness of this issue, hence the last-minute halt to the caning and Najib's advice that Kartika should appeal.
Sakmongkol AK47, What you said is 100% very true and the truth, many royals families, every week I see with my own eyes, no body from syariah court arrest them, drinking openly, Our minister Nazri, his son was holding the Carlsberg beer and one hand fondling the woman's boob, with photo as objective evidents but was he called up by the responsible people, just because he is the minister son. By right all should have one standard, thats it
Caiaphas, the Pharisees high priest of the year during the trial of Jesus Christ said "that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation should perish".
It is no secret that liquor consumption is very common in places that cater to the needs of high society – in clubs, hotels, private abode and fraternity. Most amazing is that many of the patrons of such establishments are Muslims. One of the most notorious characters is the present Malaysian Ambassador to the United States, Jamaludin Jarjis, who is infamous for his drinking binge and in one instance of his drunkenness he groped the buttocks of a lady. Surprisingly he was not hauled up in spite of this being widely publicized.
Now, to the moral police it is very embarrassing that high-society Muslims are doing such things and their hands are tied. So in imitation to the logic of the Pharisees, it is better to cane Kartika in order to cover up the sins of these socialites. So sad it is always the offenders in the lower rung of society who have to atone for the sins of high-class society's offenders.
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